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he's doing it before the election. >> but the gamble was that they would come back home, come re-election, i think by and large you're seeing that. >> we'll see. >> i have to tell you, i have never seen a political candidate repudiate their own base before election day. i understand once people get elected to the presidency different things present themselves and people get disappointed but before the election. i've never seen that. >> ask sister soldier about that, 1992, bill clinton decided to sort of present himself as a different sort of democrat and took on some of the base of his own party. >> he took on one party but he didn't tell african-americans before i get into the white house i'm pushing all of you aside. his moment was against a particular ideology with african-americans. he didn't spurn african-americans outright. >> of course not. >> is there such a thing as half etch a sketching where he get a vague outline of the old drawing and draw over the new one? because maybe that's -- >> i think romney will have two different messages down towards the end, one for the debate crow
he's doing it before the election. >> but the gamble was that they would come back home, come re-election, i think by and large you're seeing that. >> we'll see. >> i have to tell you, i have never seen a political candidate repudiate their own base before election day. i understand once people get elected to the presidency different things present themselves and people get disappointed but before the election. i've never seen that. >> ask sister soldier about that,...
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at least in recent elections. and so off on this date in 2004, which was the last time we had an incumbent president running for re-election, at this time on this date in that campaign, the campaign you might remember was all about iraq. >> at odds with the openful picture described by the president. mr. bush was challenged during an interview wit
at least in recent elections. and so off on this date in 2004, which was the last time we had an incumbent president running for re-election, at this time on this date in that campaign, the campaign you might remember was all about iraq. >> at odds with the openful picture described by the president. mr. bush was challenged during an interview wit
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at least in recent elections. and so off on this date in 2004, which was the last time we had an incumbent president running for re-election, at this time on this date in that campaign, the campaign you might remember was all about iraq. >> at odds with the hopeful picture described by the president. mr. bush was challenged during an interview with fox news about last spring's mission accomplished appearance on the "uss abraham lincoln." >> would you do it again? >> you mean have the sign up there?
at least in recent elections. and so off on this date in 2004, which was the last time we had an incumbent president running for re-election, at this time on this date in that campaign, the campaign you might remember was all about iraq. >> at odds with the hopeful picture described by the president. mr. bush was challenged during an interview with fox news about last spring's mission accomplished appearance on the "uss abraham lincoln." >> would you do it again? >>...
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it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there in that state this year. this is what we got. listen to this. it's amazing. remember, legally you can vote even if you don't have an i.d. in pennsylvania in this election. you can. listen. >> thank you for calling the pennsylvania department of state bureau of commissions, elections, and legislation. press one for english. [ speaking in foreign language ] press one for information on pennsylvania's new voter i.d. law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general electi
it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there...
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that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. and a special thank you to our fake president and mitt romney for helping us to predict this election. joining me now unmasked is krystal ball, co-host of "the nik kell" on msnbc and dana milbank. thank you both for being here this evening. >> thank, reverend. >> krystal, let me start with you. romney is falling behind not because he's a bad candidate. are voters rejecting his ideas as well? >> absolutely. as much as he's tried to hide behind the mask, democrats have been happy to fill in exactly what he stands for and what he's been saying in this election and i think he really sealed his fate. the 47% video was the nail in the coffin. really, he sealed his fate long ago when he was supporting things like personhood, an extreme piece of legislation that it was actually -- it actually failed in mississippi, the most pro life state in the country, focusing on things like self deportation, supporting the paul ryan budget, calling it marvelous, voucher rising medicare. these are wildly u
that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. and a special thank you to our fake president and mitt romney for helping us to predict this election. joining me now unmasked is krystal ball, co-host of "the nik kell" on msnbc and dana milbank. thank you both for being here this evening. >> thank, reverend. >> krystal, let me start with you. romney is falling behind not because he's a bad candidate. are voters rejecting his ideas as well? >> absolutely....
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elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42 straight months with unemployment above 8%. >> still 8% with over 43 straight months. >> today, that talking point disintegrated and president obama has a strong record to campaign on. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to the lowest level since i took office. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> now, governor romney issued a statement today saying, quote, this is not what a real
elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42...
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we're not talking about election day. we're talking about that first debate and in terms of that first debate -- it was completely the opposite of the way it was on election day. watch. >> good evening, i'm tom brokaw with nbc "nightly news." a lot of people in most of the instant polls believe walter mondale won an important battle against president reagan last night. >> in this corner at a feisty 170 pounds, the new heavyweight debater of the world -- >> at a tumultuous rally mondale claimed the debate breathed new life into his campaign. >> today we have a brand new race. today everything is different. >> reporter: while not claiming a flood of overnight conversions, mondale's aides argue millions of voters finally are listening to mondale and rethinking their support for reagan. >> the seemingly unstoppable reagan bandwagon hit a bad rut last night and the president seemed to know it. asked who won the debate as he left kentucky, all he said was, i'm smiling. at a north carolina rally, mr. reagan brought up the debate
we're not talking about election day. we're talking about that first debate and in terms of that first debate -- it was completely the opposite of the way it was on election day. watch. >> good evening, i'm tom brokaw with nbc "nightly news." a lot of people in most of the instant polls believe walter mondale won an important battle against president reagan last night. >> in this corner at a feisty 170 pounds, the new heavyweight debater of the world -- >> at a...
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they had to explain how a guy like that got elected. in a story they decided to tell themselves was that george w. bush had not been conservative enough. in a way he had. the prescription drug program, but their conclusion was he gave conservatism a bad name, and because it had a bad name, it gave rise and made people susceptible to obama. >> hence the tea party. >> what they decided to go was go extremely far to the right. you had a two-front war, one against obama or one against any that strays from ideology. mitt romney can embrace the ideology that the republican party embraced post-2008, which is poisonous to an election. paul ryan budget, they're not running on the paul ryan budget. i don't know why they put him on the ticket. >> oh, my god. >> you can do what mitt romney has done. stay away from that stuff as much as you can and you can run this message of, hey, i'm the protest vehicle. if you're unhappy where the economy is, vote out obama. that's the better calculation. we're just finding out that's not enough, but the alternat
they had to explain how a guy like that got elected. in a story they decided to tell themselves was that george w. bush had not been conservative enough. in a way he had. the prescription drug program, but their conclusion was he gave conservatism a bad name, and because it had a bad name, it gave rise and made people susceptible to obama. >> hence the tea party. >> what they decided to go was go extremely far to the right. you had a two-front war, one against obama or one against...
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they look back at the last several elections and george w. bush arguably won his two elections with that extra 10% of latinos that he got because that's 1%, 2% of the vote. and those were very close races. similarly with women, i mean if romney does as badly among women in this election as these polls say, it will break a record. i mean we've seen gender gaps of 8, 10, 11% in the last several elections between democrats and republicans, but -- >> 16. >> if it's in the teens that will be a new record. >> and i think karen, we were talking about this during the break, ann romney going out there and saying i love you women. it's not all ann romney's job but such a simplistic strategy with women and then look at as ron brown stein reports a micro targeted strategy to speak to women on issues not just the 47% stuff but the reproductive stuff, speaks to women's paychecks, speaks to their pocketbooks. >> the thing we talk about, months and months ago that the republicans did not understand in terms of this language ability the war on women for women
they look back at the last several elections and george w. bush arguably won his two elections with that extra 10% of latinos that he got because that's 1%, 2% of the vote. and those were very close races. similarly with women, i mean if romney does as badly among women in this election as these polls say, it will break a record. i mean we've seen gender gaps of 8, 10, 11% in the last several elections between democrats and republicans, but -- >> 16. >> if it's in the teens that...
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to a general election audience. and karen knows this far better than i do. when you're in the democratic primary, if you listen to the barack obama that ran against hillary clinton, it sounds very different than the barack obama that ran against john mccain. they've got to run against -- because if they compare those positions that romney has now, the way he performed in the debate the other night and compare that to barack obama's record, then we're going to be inaugurating president romney in november or january. >> but did you just say that mitt romney very specifically said one thing during his primary and something very different after the nomination? is that what you just said? >> what i said was, i think they're the same comments made to different audiences. that's an important distinctions. look, i'll be honest with you. i did not vote for mitt romney in the primary. mitt romney is not as conservative as i believe i would like our next president to believe. having said that, the mitt romney you saw on the st
to a general election audience. and karen knows this far better than i do. when you're in the democratic primary, if you listen to the barack obama that ran against hillary clinton, it sounds very different than the barack obama that ran against john mccain. they've got to run against -- because if they compare those positions that romney has now, the way he performed in the debate the other night and compare that to barack obama's record, then we're going to be inaugurating president romney in...
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it is the end or start of election month as opposed to election day. the obama people seem to have a better organizational handle on this than romney. >> the other thing we saw, a movement over time was the right direction, wrong trend. >> that's what's lifting an incumbent president. saw it especially in new hampshire where he opened a significant lead over mitt romney. >> what was the right track, wrong track? >> closed negative 20 points now to negative 7 points. still more people see it as not going well, but a huge change there, that plays an incumbent's way. >> how people read the state poll, it is about trends at this point. >> yeah. >> everything we come out with is a second poll in the last month. >> go through the same nine states. 110 electoral votes in the nine battleground states. we're going to see romney needs a shift of the whole discussion and reframing of the campaign. he can't just target an extra trip to virginia and ohio. >> a fuller picture. >> change the dynamic of the numbers. >> the entire poll, the raw data on the mayor's webs
it is the end or start of election month as opposed to election day. the obama people seem to have a better organizational handle on this than romney. >> the other thing we saw, a movement over time was the right direction, wrong trend. >> that's what's lifting an incumbent president. saw it especially in new hampshire where he opened a significant lead over mitt romney. >> what was the right track, wrong track? >> closed negative 20 points now to negative 7 points....
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about a week prior to the election, james t. blaine appeared at a republican rally and a pastor said the republican party was the party of rum, romance and rebellion. this galvanized the democratic party to come out against james t. blaine because blaine did not disassociate himself from those remarks. of course, they associated it with alcoholism. blaine lost that election and lost that state by 1,047 votes. >> gosh. >> had he decided to disassociate himself from those remarks history may have been a lot different. >> that's incredible. you think about it now when presidential candidates drink with people in bars so they can prove they're the every man. all do beer and a shot from time to time. >> even hillary clinton enjoys shots. >> there's nothing wrong with that. 1968 richard nixon facing hugh hubert humphrey. mitt romney didn't want to appear on "snl." he was worried about it not seeming presidential. let's show nixon's moment. >> sock it to me? >> we know happened as a result. >> that was five seconds that could have chan
about a week prior to the election, james t. blaine appeared at a republican rally and a pastor said the republican party was the party of rum, romance and rebellion. this galvanized the democratic party to come out against james t. blaine because blaine did not disassociate himself from those remarks. of course, they associated it with alcoholism. blaine lost that election and lost that state by 1,047 votes. >> gosh. >> had he decided to disassociate himself from those remarks...
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>> yes. >> elected in the elections since the fall of mubarak has been proposing blasphamy laws. basically, you can't do certain things, certain kinds of speech, you know that are derogatory to muhammad. what is your thought? >> i agree with the right to offend. when you look at pakistan or any other part of the country, it comes up a lot in pakistan. they use tools. i reject. that's why i was telling the woman in the video, i'm using speech. i want to discuss, what is protected speech. if you have the right to be racist, where does my right end to respond to a racism and bigotry. i want to silence minorities and people who don't agree with the government. >> an argument i heard is that our -- in the last 30 or 40 years, there's a lot before that during periods of scares that was tolerant of fairly severe limitations. you hear people and i heard a great mpr report of folks in tunisia, look, in europe, you cannot deny the holocaust. there's all kinds of restrictio restrictions. why can't we draw the red lines? >> you heard earlier from president obama a wonderful defense of americ
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there's two parts to this election, chris. one, is romney said a lot of people are unhappy with obama and his leadership and the economy. we accept that. he never made the connection that i'm the answer and solution. that's where the disconnect happened. >> mitt romney has been doing a lot to -- we saw it starting at the conventions. make himself more acceptable and help people understand him better. he's doing these direct into the camera ads. let me play one of those for you. >> more americans are living in poverty than when president obama took office. my plan will create 12 million new jobs over the next four years. helping lift families out of poverty and strengthening the middle class. >> the president is doing the same thing, doing some of these direct to camera. when you see a million ads in a battleground states, do these stand out? how do you make an ad stand out when it's all political ads and not just for the president, obviously, but senate and congressional local races. >> i think you hit the thing. as long as th
there's two parts to this election, chris. one, is romney said a lot of people are unhappy with obama and his leadership and the economy. we accept that. he never made the connection that i'm the answer and solution. that's where the disconnect happened. >> mitt romney has been doing a lot to -- we saw it starting at the conventions. make himself more acceptable and help people understand him better. he's doing these direct into the camera ads. let me play one of those for you. >>...
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they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it reinforces that. or it reinforces the opposite. if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the course of the debate and helped himself by saying to americans, think back, are you better off today than you were four years ago, is it easier to get a job, are there fewer of you that are unemployed and by getting the american folks to concentrate on that as opposed to how much they like president carter really helped. >> that's a variation of the question that the romney campa
they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it reinforces that. or it reinforces the opposite. if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds....
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barack obama was never elected president. acorn put him in there. >> i think that's the universal impulse. the question is whether it's being cultivated or not. >> i want to say one thing about the difficulties of figuring out how many jobs are really being created. it's not an easy thing as you were saying. one of the problems is that when you turn the economy from, you know, sort of normal growth to either a turning point going up or down, the statistics have a real difficulty. one of the reasons is that the surveys go to typically establish enterprises. >> right. >> but when you have the turning point you're creating new turning points. you're not going to survey those because you don't know where they are. and that's where the household survey picks up things that are not in the establishment survey. >> right. >> on the other hand, one of the real problems is that we have what you call seasonal adjustments because there's a pattern over the year. before christmas we create normally more jobs. as we go into the summer, col
barack obama was never elected president. acorn put him in there. >> i think that's the universal impulse. the question is whether it's being cultivated or not. >> i want to say one thing about the difficulties of figuring out how many jobs are really being created. it's not an easy thing as you were saying. one of the problems is that when you turn the economy from, you know, sort of normal growth to either a turning point going up or down, the statistics have a real difficulty....
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it was the 2010 midterm elections. this is not about what happened in the next four years, but it's about who will do a better job for the next four years. romney needs to present something other than, jie, hasn't obama sucked? you cannot win like that. howard dean would be the democratic nominee and president of the united states if that was the case. you have to give people a reason to vote for you. >> steve, you make pay compelling argument there. the debates, perhaps, michael, the next opportunity and the last opportunity for mitt romney to make this case. both sides have elised memos. this is beth myers of the romney campaign. this is what she says in part. it's clear that president obama will use his ample rhett for cal gifts in debating experience at one end. we expect a 90-minute attack ad. david axelrod not to be outdone by the obama campaign. saying we expect mitt romney to be prepared, disciplined and aaggressive. the first debate generally favor challengers. both sides are trying to manage expectations here
it was the 2010 midterm elections. this is not about what happened in the next four years, but it's about who will do a better job for the next four years. romney needs to present something other than, jie, hasn't obama sucked? you cannot win like that. howard dean would be the democratic nominee and president of the united states if that was the case. you have to give people a reason to vote for you. >> steve, you make pay compelling argument there. the debates, perhaps, michael, the...
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i still think 38 days before the election or something like that. but mitt romney didn't make that argument. and he didn't make it in those swing states. and that's because mitt romney played defense a lot of the first half of this year. whether it was in the primaries or in may, when the primary was finally over, and the obama campaign really started to hit him hard on his bain record. there hasn't an opening or an effective way for him to articulate a vision to turning the economy around. and it shows in the poll numbers. >> lynn, if governor romney can't hang this economy over the president's neck in the next three or four weeks, is there a chance he can beat him? >> of course there is one big blooper from obama, and the mistake may certainly change the trajectory of the campaign. but garrett made a very good point. i want to quickly build on another reason why obama might have dealt with housing today. he's doing his debate prep in a suburb of las vegas. where is he now that it's hard hit? so, again, this is another reason -- a reason he's campe
i still think 38 days before the election or something like that. but mitt romney didn't make that argument. and he didn't make it in those swing states. and that's because mitt romney played defense a lot of the first half of this year. whether it was in the primaries or in may, when the primary was finally over, and the obama campaign really started to hit him hard on his bain record. there hasn't an opening or an effective way for him to articulate a vision to turning the economy around. and...
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. >>> it is just five weeks until election day, and the stakes could not be higher. with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when he goes on a nostalgic riff. in this case the rocky mountains are just the right height. >> when avis boy my mom and dad used to read to me from a book called "men to match my mountains." perhaps we should change the title to "men and women to match my mountains" because right here men and women have matched the mountains of colorado. >> he's really working on the zingers. we see what you did there, mitt, adding women into the mix. nice. anything to do with the president's 18-point lead with women putting him four points above romney nationwide? no, i'm sure not. by the way, the same poll shows voters expect
. >>> it is just five weeks until election day, and the stakes could not be higher. with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when...
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he still loses the election. you can't just win on election day anymore. i mean, it starts this week, really. >> well, let's go to iowa where paul ryan will be campaigning today. "the des moines register" has the president leading 49% to 45% among likely voters, just 2% are undecided. those numbers are raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate in denver. and right now expectations seem to be with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win the debate, according to polling from a the washington post and abc news. >> a poll that means absolutely nothing. >> it's good for romney. >> because he's got lower expectations. >> underdog. >> i guess so. >> and people could be surprised simply by seeing them side by side. i mean, the symbolism, the symbiotics i don't think can be overstated. seeing them side by side, if romney does well, i think he'll get a bump no matter what the sort of intricacies are. just side by side with the president in terms of stature and in terms of people thinking he can win, on equal footing. >> wil
he still loses the election. you can't just win on election day anymore. i mean, it starts this week, really. >> well, let's go to iowa where paul ryan will be campaigning today. "the des moines register" has the president leading 49% to 45% among likely voters, just 2% are undecided. those numbers are raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate in denver. and right now expectations seem to be with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win...
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i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who called him on that? we went an hour and a half before i went -- a couple days ago he talked about the pre-existing coverage and now you're saying you have a program and i'm going to take nationally based on the principles of massachusetts. >> i'll you another example that infuriates me. this $716 billion medicare issue in ryan's plan. >> the number? >> yeah. romney tonight said the reason he thinks we ought to have a voucher system for medicare is government never does anything efficiently and the first thing he says about the reform is he's takin
i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who...
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than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many, many weeks, it was really quiet here. and it was only after they chose paul ryan as his vice presidential candidate that he started spending money here. so we're seeing advertising for both camps, so you're also seeing a president making a concerted effort. the president's been here twice in the last three weeks. i'm very confident that he's going to win. >> bill clinton, he's a big factor in the race, he campaigned for you in the recall electi election. >> well, i think he's a great asset and you can send bill clinton anywhere in this country and p
than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many,...
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before the election. this sort of thing does happen from time to time. economists know this. and they say this is not really that unusual. it is really silly and it's almost outlandish to think that the several dozen staff people who are career people, not political appointees at the bureau of labor statistics somehow polluted or had a conspiracy to cook numbers. my guess is we are going to get one more jobs rot before the november election, november 2nd four days before the election. my guess is that one is going to fix some of the anomalies in this report. and the unemployment rate could very well go back up above 8% in that report. because again, something's a little bit off about these numbers. but these are going to get smoothed out over time. oftentimes it takes a couple months before they recount, go over it. >> but you've been writing that the economy seems to be going president obama's way and the question is can mitt romney win without it turning his. if four or five days before the election we
before the election. this sort of thing does happen from time to time. economists know this. and they say this is not really that unusual. it is really silly and it's almost outlandish to think that the several dozen staff people who are career people, not political appointees at the bureau of labor statistics somehow polluted or had a conspiracy to cook numbers. my guess is we are going to get one more jobs rot before the november election, november 2nd four days before the election. my guess...
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, grant park election night and inaugural. if he governs like these three speeches he will beat eisenhower and split the republican party. >> eric canter, bob woodward reported it in the same book after meeting with barack obama the first time and barack obama saying we're going to figure out how to work even eric canter turned to his staff and said if this guy governs this way republicans aren't going to be back in the majority for a very long time. >> i believe that. >> so does he have what it takes? bill clinton turned on a dime. we didn't believe in 1994 -- >> i think it was six months of turning. >> yeah. >> but clinton had a huge advantage over obama. clinton had lost the governorship after being the youngest governor in the country. >> he governed in arkansas for ten years. dealt with conservative democrats and a very small republican party. >> the decision to turn came from when he lost in '80 and it was clear to both bill and hillary if they stayed on the hard left they'd be a one-term president as carter had been. th
, grant park election night and inaugural. if he governs like these three speeches he will beat eisenhower and split the republican party. >> eric canter, bob woodward reported it in the same book after meeting with barack obama the first time and barack obama saying we're going to figure out how to work even eric canter turned to his staff and said if this guy governs this way republicans aren't going to be back in the majority for a very long time. >> i believe that. >> so...
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by the way, this isn't about this election. this is about what happens after this election. how does this president -- >> exactly. >> -- after saying to the republicans, i'm going to cut medicare, which, again, is a responsible thing to do, the only thing you can do if you want to save the program, how can this president then get re-elected and go back to boehner and go, you know what? i said i'd cut medicare, and then i demagogued it and attacked you guys on the campaign. >> well, in his own words, he said it's bad politics to not draw a distinction. now, there is somewhat of a distinction, in fairness, but he is proposing cutting medicare. and anyone -- this is not a economists from the left or the right. this is beyond politics. this is arithmetic, as bill clinton said. >> basic math. >> it's unsustainable. you've got to do something about it. >> it's about telling the truth. go ahead, sam. >> i think this was supported in your book, which is that at the time of that grand bargain, there was a lot of concern among democrats that paul ryan would come out with this budget,
by the way, this isn't about this election. this is about what happens after this election. how does this president -- >> exactly. >> -- after saying to the republicans, i'm going to cut medicare, which, again, is a responsible thing to do, the only thing you can do if you want to save the program, how can this president then get re-elected and go back to boehner and go, you know what? i said i'd cut medicare, and then i demagogued it and attacked you guys on the campaign. >>...
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this is a debate to win the election. i'm sorry, it may have been disappointing, but there was something else going on. you have the jobs numbers coming out at 8:30 this morning in just a couple of hours. you have a lot of other things at play, and he's in a certain position in this race. there must have been, as flummoxing as it was to watch, a strategy. what was it? >> i haven't said this for a very long time. i'll say it again, though. debates are where you show your depth of understanding about politics. i've seen 1,000 debates. i've participated in, you know, scores of debates. and you know immediately. you can just look around the stage at the people to the left and the right of you, how deep can they go? by the way, they pick up on your eyes while you're looking across at them. there were a couple guys where a guy was about to do a cheap shot on me, and i'd lean in and go, you want to? let's go. and they'd back off immediately. barack obama. it happened with hillary clinton time and time again where hillary clinton
this is a debate to win the election. i'm sorry, it may have been disappointing, but there was something else going on. you have the jobs numbers coming out at 8:30 this morning in just a couple of hours. you have a lot of other things at play, and he's in a certain position in this race. there must have been, as flummoxing as it was to watch, a strategy. what was it? >> i haven't said this for a very long time. i'll say it again, though. debates are where you show your depth of...
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and that's what this election is about. it was the substance of the debate that i think mattered most, the competing view of what is best for getting our country going again. do we want to have, you know, $2 trillion in tax increases hitting the middle class at $4,000 per, you know, per family? or are we going to have tax relief for the middle class? are we going to bring down rates and broaden the base to get economic growth going again? are we going to continue to have higher health insurance premiums under obamacare as we've seen in the past four years, or are we going to have market-oriented reforms that will inject competition that will hold costs down? it was a is he substantive debate last night, and i think that's why governor romney did so well, because a lot of people saw him for the first time, not in a 30-second attack ad or a 12-second snippet on the news, but got to hear him directly. i think it was a good thing. >> well, you certainly are going to be hearing from the obama campaign today. we heard it from dav
and that's what this election is about. it was the substance of the debate that i think mattered most, the competing view of what is best for getting our country going again. do we want to have, you know, $2 trillion in tax increases hitting the middle class at $4,000 per, you know, per family? or are we going to have tax relief for the middle class? are we going to bring down rates and broaden the base to get economic growth going again? are we going to continue to have higher health insurance...
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the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning from washington. it's friday, october 5th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we'll have much more on the new jobs numbers in minutes with economist mark zandi, texas senator kay bailey hutchison is here, and an exclusive this morning senior adviser to the president david plouffe. but first right to my first reads of the morning. we'll hear from the obama and romney campaigns on the jobs numbers. i'm sure a ton on the campaign trail. they're in the big three battleground states at some point sha
the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning...
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he's going to be elected president on november 6. and then from there lead our country back to greatness. and believe me, if i took seriously judgment of my speeches by those two, i would not be in business for very long. >> governor chris christie, we'll leave it there. thank you as always. >> great to be with you, david. >>> let me now turn to the president's senior adviser david plouffe. welcome back. >> good morning, david. >> governor christie says thursday morning the entire narrative of the race will change after the debates. looks like romney is expecting a good showing. >> i think governor christie is articulating what governor romney's campaign believes, that they'll change this race fundamentally. they talk about how this will be like 1980 and reagan surged to a huge lead. that's really the marker here. they set it out. they expect to come out of this with the race fundamentally changed. what does that mean? if it's going to fundamentally change that means in seven or 10 days from now you'll see states like ohio tied and i
he's going to be elected president on november 6. and then from there lead our country back to greatness. and believe me, if i took seriously judgment of my speeches by those two, i would not be in business for very long. >> governor chris christie, we'll leave it there. thank you as always. >> great to be with you, david. >>> let me now turn to the president's senior adviser david plouffe. welcome back. >> good morning, david. >> governor christie says thursday...
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we think we've got the numbers to win an election. but it's going to be exceedingly tough at the end. we expect it to tighten. our entire campaign is built on the premise, we've got 53% of the vote in 2008 under ideal circumstances, so we've always believed it's going to be closer than 2008 and so i expect that we're going to see in the weeks to come this race will tighten a little bit. >> i want to talk about issues, including a foreign policy crisis in libya and the fact that this administration has changed its tune when it comes to describing the raid on our compound on our embassy in libya that killed our ambassador, chris stevens and others on the ground. on september 16th, the u.n. ambassador for this administration came on this program and this is how she described whether or not this was a deliberate act, a terrorist attack. this is what sizen wright said at that time. >> let me tell you best information we have at present. first of all, there's an fbi investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us
we think we've got the numbers to win an election. but it's going to be exceedingly tough at the end. we expect it to tighten. our entire campaign is built on the premise, we've got 53% of the vote in 2008 under ideal circumstances, so we've always believed it's going to be closer than 2008 and so i expect that we're going to see in the weeks to come this race will tighten a little bit. >> i want to talk about issues, including a foreign policy crisis in libya and the fact that this...
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on substance and trust along this election shnt be this close as this juncture. that does it for "news nation." tomorrow, september jobs report out, and zachary will join us and anne. "the cycle" is up next fmpltz . i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand what medicare is all about. and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you.
on substance and trust along this election shnt be this close as this juncture. that does it for "news nation." tomorrow, september jobs report out, and zachary will join us and anne. "the cycle" is up next fmpltz . i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male...
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our presidential elections are generally speaking, not about the past, but about the future. that's number one. so, in case of the narrative. number two, that we know that in politics as in so much else in life, after these debates are over, there will be a lot of people who can tell you specifically what any candidate said, but they will know how that candidate made them feel. so, the object and target for both candidates in the debates is for people to walk away feeling the person who handled it best. certainly people they want specifics, so governor romney, he needs to tell how with some detail his administration will be different from not just the obama administration, but from the president bush. with president obama, his challenge is to spell out to people. tell them how things are going to be different. in his second term than they were in his first term without acknowledging that the first term was necessarily bad, but people don't want same old same old. they want a vision of the future and we've come away to say the end comment at the debates tonight may be the most
our presidential elections are generally speaking, not about the past, but about the future. that's number one. so, in case of the narrative. number two, that we know that in politics as in so much else in life, after these debates are over, there will be a lot of people who can tell you specifically what any candidate said, but they will know how that candidate made them feel. so, the object and target for both candidates in the debates is for people to walk away feeling the person who handled...
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i love election season. if you like politics, if you like presidential politics, this is a huge night. we don't know what's going to happen but i would say, look, we know we're going to have lots and lots of people watching, very high stakes. and what happens tonight, as you point out, i think it is not just the 90 minutes in denver, it's what happens after that, how the debate is cast, how it's saved by voters, how it's received by folks who are already decided, how it's decided by folks who haven't decided yet some, we are into debate season. i could not be more excited. >> and it's pretty late for debate season. we are talking about october, not september. this is very little margin for error, very limb room for them to make up for any problems they may make. we will see the president tomorrow in denver at a rally, then he goes wisconsin, interestingly, and then mitt romney heads to virginia. so, he will be with paul ryan, the team together again in virginia. the importance of virginia, we have seen in th
i love election season. if you like politics, if you like presidential politics, this is a huge night. we don't know what's going to happen but i would say, look, we know we're going to have lots and lots of people watching, very high stakes. and what happens tonight, as you point out, i think it is not just the 90 minutes in denver, it's what happens after that, how the debate is cast, how it's saved by voters, how it's received by folks who are already decided, how it's decided by folks who...
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you know that said, i'm not sure it will have a decisive effect on the debate or on the election. what we do know is that the security inside these temporary facilities outposts in benghazi was in retrospect insufficient. there are reasons for that, but i don't think -- you know, it will be a lot of political costs to just the fact that -- there are things that we just don't know yet. we have an asked who the group was. we don't know whether they did this on their own or perhaps had instructions from a larger group like al qaeda. >> p.j., i keep thinking back to the first round of interviews that susan rice did on the sunday shows where she initially proposed the youtube video was at the root of chris stevens' assassination. i want to play that sound again so we're reminds of what she said in those moments. let's hear what she had to say. >> let me tell you the best information we have at present. first of all there's an fbi investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. putting together the best information w
you know that said, i'm not sure it will have a decisive effect on the debate or on the election. what we do know is that the security inside these temporary facilities outposts in benghazi was in retrospect insufficient. there are reasons for that, but i don't think -- you know, it will be a lot of political costs to just the fact that -- there are things that we just don't know yet. we have an asked who the group was. we don't know whether they did this on their own or perhaps had...
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but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections of the modern elections, the debates really played an important role. 1980 was one of those. >> 1960. >> 1960 and probably gerald ford's election where he said that the eastern europe was not -- or poland was not dominated by the soviet union, made some difference in a close election. but this is going to be a close election. in spite of what you see in some of the polls, some are close now, the fundamental dynamics of this race are quite close and so its could make a difference in this race. >> thank you so much. >>> up next, is iraq unraveling? a look at where the u.s. policy stands now, next on "andrea mitchell reports." we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a little easier, more convenient, more rewarding, more entertaining. year after year. it's the reason why we don't have customers. we have members. american express. welcome in. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medica
but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections of the modern elections, the debates really played an important role. 1980 was one of those. >> 1960. >> 1960 and probably gerald ford's election where he said that the eastern europe was not -- or poland was not dominated by the soviet union, made some difference in a close election. but this is going to be a close election. in spite of what you see in some of the polls, some are close now, the...
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this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations in libya that followed that terrorist ait tack, with 30,000 in the street, you know, demanding that those militias and those, you know, terrorists and islamic militias are disbanded. that gives us, you know, great hope for, you know, what can happen in a place like libya. >> thanks so much, robert gibbs, see you in denver, be there tomorrow. >> thanks, andre ya. >> up next, the testy senate debate in massachusetts. and still ahead, mitt romney's debate strategy. we'll talk to his top adviser kevin madden. join us in denver at the site of the first presidential debate. among our guests obama depppy campaign manager stephanie cutter, michael benefit and jim talent. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. so anyway, i've been to a lot of places. you know, i've helped a lot of people save a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of large metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of
this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations in libya that followed that terrorist ait tack, with 30,000 in the street, you know, demanding that those militias and those, you know, terrorists and islamic militias are disbanded. that gives us, you know, great hope for, you know, what can happen in a place like libya. >> thanks so much, robert gibbs, see you in denver, be there tomorrow. >> thanks, andre ya....
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appreciate it. >>> the impact this election could have on the supreme court. which of the justices might retire in the next four years and how might that affect the court's makeup? depending on who wins the presiden presidency. >>> a chilling effect. could polls showing president obama with big leads in swing states cause some voters to stay away election day? from either party? bob, these projections... they're... optimistic. productivity up, costs down, time to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-action formula restores visibly healthier skin in 3 days. neosporin® eczema essentials™. silverado! the most dependable, longest lasting, full-size pickups on the road. so, what do you think? [ engine revs ] i'll take it. [ male announcer ] it's chevy
appreciate it. >>> the impact this election could have on the supreme court. which of the justices might retire in the next four years and how might that affect the court's makeup? depending on who wins the presiden presidency. >>> a chilling effect. could polls showing president obama with big leads in swing states cause some voters to stay away election day? from either party? bob, these projections... they're... optimistic. productivity up, costs down, time to market...
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one on election day. now they send out one every two minutes it seems. >> it was all facebook in '08. >> they're on pinterest and twitter and all the different things. >> they're literally on twitter behind us right now. you know, on our big -- this is the live feed for both barack obama and mitt romney. if fact, if you guys are watching, feel free to tweet us here. use the nerdland hash tag. right. you're right. certainly twitter is a platform. >> here's what was good. i was in tampa for the last couple of days, went to three or four field offices in the obama campaign and saw them putting people out on the ground with clip boards going door to door. they figured out how to marry up the old field organizing campaign with the new online campaign to make it all kind of work seamlessly. >> i'll tell you, they're ipads, not clipboards anymore. >> old school. >> we're going new school with ipads and other stuff. what i've seen and amy jo i love your opinions. 140 million facebook users. facebook has people ta
one on election day. now they send out one every two minutes it seems. >> it was all facebook in '08. >> they're on pinterest and twitter and all the different things. >> they're literally on twitter behind us right now. you know, on our big -- this is the live feed for both barack obama and mitt romney. if fact, if you guys are watching, feel free to tweet us here. use the nerdland hash tag. right. you're right. certainly twitter is a platform. >> here's what was good....
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than any elected president in his -- re-elected president in history. or you're going to have a guy who gets elected who has very low likability and favorability ratings. i mean, is there anything to that that they're just sayings to saying toss all these numbers aside. don't pay attention to them. >> you have to pay attention to them. the problem with comparing these, these things happen so infrequently, once every four years. and the circumstances are always completely different from four years, eight years, ten years, 100 years ago. and so making those kinds of comparisons don't mean anything. i was thinking about the unemployment numbers this morning. and it just seems to me that the numbers have been so high for so long that it's like high gasoline prices. the first time they went to 4 bucks there was panic in the streets. this year they sit around 3.85 and whatever it is and people go well that's the way it is. >> new norm kind of. >> well, i would just add to that they think that part of what we're seeing in at least in some of the tracking polls
than any elected president in his -- re-elected president in history. or you're going to have a guy who gets elected who has very low likability and favorability ratings. i mean, is there anything to that that they're just sayings to saying toss all these numbers aside. don't pay attention to them. >> you have to pay attention to them. the problem with comparing these, these things happen so infrequently, once every four years. and the circumstances are always completely different from...
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. >> with 40 days to go until the election both campaigns are preparing for their most crucial test yet as is "snl" on thursday night. what's in stake in next week's debate. bob and senior political analyst mark halperin joining me now. bob, you've done a lot of debate prep over the years, memorable the lloyd bentsen debate. >> that was the first one i helped in, but i've done a lot more since then. >> a good one liner in that one for sure. >> the one liner is very interesting. you can bet that in these debate preps people are looking for the line and what happens with these candidates is under pressure they tend to default to what they're saying out on the campaign trail and what -- in 1988, the benson prep team knew -- >> against dan quayle. >> who became vice president, that he had a tendency to go around justifying himself by saying he had as many years in the congress as jfk did when elected president. that violates number one my primary rule in politics which is don't compare yourself to jfk or reagan, you're no, not going to come off well. it gave benson an opening. he didn't say
. >> with 40 days to go until the election both campaigns are preparing for their most crucial test yet as is "snl" on thursday night. what's in stake in next week's debate. bob and senior political analyst mark halperin joining me now. bob, you've done a lot of debate prep over the years, memorable the lloyd bentsen debate. >> that was the first one i helped in, but i've done a lot more since then. >> a good one liner in that one for sure. >> the one liner is...